Way Excellent II Turntable Mat:

285mm-diameter Way Excellent II-3mm Turntable Mat w/ Garrard 401

"Outperforms virtually any other mat available."–Robert Stein, The Cable Company

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Made with finely textured, open-cell silicone foam, this mat has unsurpassed vibration-absorbing characteristics and no resonant qualities to discolor the music. Records are thoroughly decoupled from unwanted platter micro-vibration. Available in a variety of thicknesses and diameters to fit almost any turntable.

A black elastomer "donut" on top of the white foam base reduces vinyl/stylus feedback and eliminates lateral slippage. Also provides for recessed label area and outer edge lead-in. Completely non-tacky, records lift right off the mat, while the underlying foam holds firmly to the platter (records can be lifted off while the platter is turning).

Since its introduction in December, 2002, Herbie's Way Excellent Turntable Mats have been tested against almost every kind of turntable mat with many different kinds of turntables, both in-house and by our customers. Herbie's Way Excellent Turntable Mats have consistently proven superior to stock felt mats and clearly outperform stock rubber mats. With virtually any kind of turntable, a Way Excellent II Turntable Mat is a safe bet to do better than any cork, Sorbothane, shelf-material, or hard carbon/graphite mat. Compared to high-end mats costing several times more, Herbie's Way Excellent II Turntable Mat consistently competes within a margin of personal preference or better with most turntables.

Way Excellent II delivers extremely fast dynamic response and finely-textured, natural detail with subtle ambience, not a false "staccato-like" sense of detail like cork and some other materials tend to provide. With a truer rotation of the vinyl, you get a more faithful rendering of the music and atmosphere of the originally recorded event.

If unsure which mat to choose, you'll virtually always do well with a Way Excellent II Turntable Mat that's closest in thickness and diameter to your turntable's stock platter mat:

Way Excellent II-2mm:

Recommended upgrade for most turntables with thin felt mat. (For turntables without VTA adjustment, choose whichever mat is closest in thickness to your present mat.) Ideal for Linn, AR, Audio Note, Oracle, and other suspended-platter turntables. Great upgrade/replacement mat for Pro-Ject; Music Hall MMF–series; Rega Planar–series (except P9); Nottingham Horizon, Horizon SE, Spacedeck. Overall mat thickness: 2mm; weight: 60 grams (2.1 oz.).

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Way Excellent II-2.4mm:

Recommended for turntables with medium thickness felt mat. Popular choice for ceramic-platter Rega P7 (click for photo). Overall thickness: 2.4mm; weight: 65 grams (2.3 oz.).

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Way Excellent II-3mm:

Recommended for turntables with thick felt mat or thin rubber mat about 1/8" thick. Most popular upgrade choice for Thorens, Orbit, VPI Scout 1.1, and VPI Traveler (for Scout 1.1 and Traveler II platter with raised center hub, choose 4.25" donut hole option from the Shopping Cart drop-down menu). Overall thickness: 3mm; weight: 70 grams (2.5 oz.).

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Way Excellent II-3.4mm:

Upgrade replacement for Oracle mats and for any turntable requiring a medium-thickness platter mat. Overall thickness: 3.35mm; weight: 82 grams (2.89 oz.).

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Way Excellent II-3.7mm:

For turntables with mat about 5/32" thick. Overall thickness: 3.7mm; weight: 99 grams (3.5 oz.).

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Way Excellent II-4mm:

For turntables with mat 4mm thick* and for VTA-adjustable turntables with semi-hollow cast platters prone to ringing. For belt-drive turntables, 4mm thickness provides sufficient isolation to effectively reduce or eliminate motor-induced 50Hz - 60Hz hum.

Popular choice for Empire, Technics, Garrard, Dual, Denon, Harman/Kardon, Kenwood, JVC, Lenco, Pioneer, and Well Tempered turntables. (For turntables without VTA/tonearm height adjustment, use whichever Way Excellent II is closest in thickness to your present mat.) Overall thickness: 4mm; weight: 108 grams (3.8 oz.)

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Way Excellent II-4.5mm:

With dual-layer foam base, for turntables with mat about 3/16" thick*
Overall thickness: 4.5mm; weight: 113 grams (4 oz.)

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Way Excellent II-5mm:

With dual-layer foam base, for turntables with mat 5mm thick*

Overall thickness: 5mm; weight: 120 grams (4.2 oz.)

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Way Excellent II-5.3mm:

With dual-layer foam base.

Overall thickness: 5.3mm; weight: 125 grams (4.4 oz.)

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Way Excellent II-5.56mm:

With dual-layer foam base, for turntables with mat 7/32" thick*

Overall thickness: 5.56mm; weight: 136 grams (4.8 oz.)

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Way Excellent II-6mm:

With extra thick dual-layer foam base, for turntables with mat just a little under 1/4" thick* Overall thickness: 6mm; weight: 153 grams (5.4 oz.).

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Way Excellent II-6.35mm:

With extra thick dual-layer foam base, for turntables with mat 1/4" thick*

Overall thickness: 6.35mm; weight: 160 grams (5.6 oz.).

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Way Excellent II-6.9mm:

With extra thick dual-layer foam base, for turntables with mat just over 1/4" thick* Overall thickness: 6.9mm; weight: 182 grams (6.4 oz.).

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Way Excellent II-7.2mm:

With extra thick dual-layer foam base, for turntables with mat about 9/32" thick* Overall thickness: 7.2mm; weight: 190 grams (6.7 oz.).

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*A note on thickness:

The open-cell silicone foam used with Way Excellent II Turntable Mats is very efficient and does not necessarily need to be as thick as stock rubber mats to effectively isolate a record from the platter and do a better job at it. Any thickness above 4mm simply adds thickness and height, with no real increase in isolation capacity. Usually, the only reason you would need a mat thicker than 4mm is if you cannot adjust VTA/tonearm height to accommodate. With platters not prone to ringing or excessive rumble, a thinner mat is usually sufficient. (scroll up to return)

Custom center hole:

All Way Excellent Turntable Mats are available with custom center hole for only $1.50 extra, any size up to two inches diameter, or 4.25" (108mm) "donut" hole. If you would like a custom center hole, simply order whichever Way Excellent Turntable Mat you want, and specify in the "comments" section of the order form the desired center hole diameter, in either inches or millimeters.

Standard Way Excellent II spindle hole is 7.25mm (.2854") and accomodates all standard LP spindles (which vary only slightly, from .278" to .285"). Standard singles "45 RPM" adapter requirement is 1-1/2".

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grungebuster Turntable Mat:

grungebuster Turntable Mat

For matless VPI acrylic-platter turntables and Rega P9.

SuperSonic Record Stabilizer:

SuperSonic Record Stabilizer

A molded and hand-machined non-magnetic composite of fluorocarbons and metallic particles formulated for use with Herbie's turntable mats to enhance overall turntable performance. Stabilizer is not a clamp or conventional record weight it's designed to add a moderate amount of virtual mass to the record without clamping. 163.5 grams (5.8 oz.)

Recommended for all turntables using a Way Excellent II Turntable Mat, especially turntables with delicate suspension like Linn LP12. For turntables with adjustable suspension, adjust suspension to optimize performance with Stabilizer).

Titanium Record Stabilizer:

Titanium Record Stabilizer


With it's innate ability to nullify very high-frequency, acute micro-vibrations that cause glare and its overall sonic neutrality, titanium is perhaps the world's best material, natural or man-made, for use as a record weight. Some of our customers have found that you don't really need a weight or clamp with the Way Excellent II Turntable mat; if you do use a clamp, however, you can't do any better than this. Precision-machined from 99.99 percent pure titanium, Herbie's Titanium Record Stabilizer helps attain the ultimate achievement in vinyl playback.


  • Weight: 0.87 lb. (393 grams)
  • Maximum Diameter: 3.1" (78.74mm)
  • Maximum Height: 1.045" (26.543mm)
  • Maximum Spindle Height: 1" (25.4mm)

Titanium Record Stabilizer

Aluminum Record Stabilizer

Identical to Titanium Record Stabilizer above,

except precision-machined from Type 6061 (T6)

aluminum. Weight: 240 grams


Tonearm dampers:


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Herbie's Donut:

Herbie's Donut Platter Mat

Firm elastomer "donut" is a great record/platter interface for Raven AC, Verdier Platine, and other turntables that typically do not use a platter mat. Standard .81mm-thick mat has sufficient body/weight that it stays in position on the platter and records lift right off. Herbie's Donut is also handy to use instead of awkward-to-use shims and to avoid adjusting VTA between records: just place on top of your present mat when you need a height boost for thin records, take it off for use with thick records.


  • Outside diameter: 280mm (11") Inside diameter 108mm (4.25")
  • Thickness: .81mm (.032") or optional .5mm
  • Optional spindle washer allows use of record clamp.

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Name: C Carrera
Message: What size/thickness do you recommend for my Sansui SR-929 ? Thank you

Webmaster's reply: A 285mm-diameter Way Excellent II-4mm Turntable Mat is ideal for the SR-929.
Name: Noel Pascual
Message: I have a Pioneer PL-518X turntable, what is the best mat that I can replace to the stock rubber mat to achieve clarity and great bass? Thanks.

Webmaster's reply: A 285mm-diameter Way Excellent II-4mm Turntable Mat is ideal for the PL-518.
Name: Peter Lin
Message: Hi, I need one mat for AR XA and another one for REK-O-KUT B12, your recommendation, please, thanks.

Webmaster's reply: I recommend a full-size (295mm-diameter) Way Excellent II-2mm Turntable Mat for the AR XA, and a 285mm-diameter Way Excellent II-4mm Turntable Mat with 1.5" center hole for the Rek-O-Kut B-12.
Name: Steinar
Message: Hi

Can you recommend me the best mat for a Onkyo CP-1050 turntable?

Webmaster's reply: A Full-size Way Excellent II-4mm Turntable Mat.
Name: Cliff Collipriest, Santa Maria, CA
Message: I am more than a bit of a skeptic so when I read that Herbie's Way Excellent II Turntable Mat would make and AUDIBLE difference to my old ears I thought, meh, yea right. But I read enough reviews that had positive things to say I could not help but give this mat a try on my new Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC turntable.

I just received my mat today and did a back to back comparison between the stock felt mat and Herbie's mat, and I have to say it knocked my socks off. There REALLY is a not so subtle difference in music quality between the 2 mats. I used Talking Heads Fear Of Music as my test album. On the first song the strings on the base guitar livened up so much you could hear much more of the individual string vibrations. The highs are less pitchy and bright, yet more detailed.

I never would have thought anything less than a cartridge or cable upgrade would make this much difference. This mat is totally worth the $$.
Name: Mitsuman
Message: What would be your suggestion to level the arm on a Technics SL-1700 (non-mkII). With a stock Technics headshell and an AT 440mla, I'm running tail up and the SL-1700 does not have a tonearm height adjustment. Thanks in advance for any insight.

Webmaster's reply: Upgrade to a 285mm-diameter Way Excellent II Turntable Mat of appropriate thickness. (With stock setup, 4mm thickness is ideal.)
Name: JOHN
Message: What mat is recommended for a BIC 940 TT with the ribbed type factory mat dose it go over existing mat.

Webmaster's reply: We don't have a particular recommendation for BIC 900-series turntables. However, you can use a Way Excellent II-4mm Turntable Mat on top of the stock platter/mat, if using the player in single-play mode only, not stacking automatic mode.
Name: Charles
Message: I have a Denon DP-52F, what would be your advise for a replacement mat?

Webmaster's reply: A Full-size Way Excellent II-4mm Turntable Mat.
Name: Tony H
Message: Mat recommendation for Rega 1

Webmaster's reply: Full-size Way Excellent II-2mm Turntable Mat, standard center hole.
Name: Bogdan
Message: Hi - what size and thickness would you recommend for Audio Technica LP5? thank you

Webmaster's reply: 280mm-diameter Way Excellent II-5mm Turntable Mat with standard spindle hole.
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