Way Excellent II Turntable Mat:

285mm-diameter Way Excellent II-3mm Turntable Mat w/ Garrard 401

"Outperforms virtually any other mat available."–Robert Stein, The Cable Company

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February 2016 print edition.

Made with finely textured, open-cell silicone foam, this mat has unsurpassed vibration-absorbing characteristics and no resonant qualities to discolor the music. Records are thoroughly decoupled from unwanted platter micro-vibration.

A black elastomer "donut" on top of the white foam base reduces vinyl/stylus feedback and eliminates lateral slippage. Completely non-tacky, records lift right off the mat, while the underlying foam holds firmly to the platter (records can be lifted off while the platter is turning). Available in a variety of thicknesses and diameters to fit almost any turntable.

Since its introduction in December, 2002, Herbie's Way Excellent Turntable Mats have been tested against almost every kind of turntable mat with many different kinds of turntables, both in-house and by our customers. Herbie's Way Excellent Turntable Mats have consistently proven superior to stock felt mats and clearly outperform stock rubber mats. With virtually any kind of turntable, a Way Excellent II Turntable Mat is a safe bet to do better than any cork, Sorbothane, shelf-material, or hard carbon/graphite mat. Compared to high-end mats costing several times more, Herbie's Way Excellent II Turntable Mat consistently competes within a margin of personal preference or better with most turntables.

Way Excellent II delivers extremely fast dynamic response and finely-textured, natural detail with subtle ambience, not a false "staccato-like" sense of detail like cork and some other materials tend to provide. With a truer rotation of the vinyl, you get a more faithful rendering of the music and atmosphere of the originally recorded event.

If you've been using a felt, cork, shelf-material, rubber mat–or no mat–you're in for a pleasant surprise and genuine upgrade.

Way Excellent II-2mm:

Recommended upgrade for most turntables with thin felt mat. (For turntables without VTA adjustment, choose whichever mat is closest in thickness to your present mat.) Ideal for Linn, AR, Audio Note, Oracle, and other suspended-platter turntables. Great upgrade/replacement mat for Pro-Ject; Music Hall MMF–series; Rega Planar–series (except P9); Nottingham Horizon, Horizon SE, Spacedeck. Overall mat thickness: 2mm; weight: 60 grams (2.1 oz.).

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Way Excellent II-2.4mm:

Recommended for turntables with medium thickness felt mat. Popular choice for ceramic-platter Rega P7 (click for photo). Overall thickness: 2.4mm; weight: 65 grams (2.3 oz.).

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Way Excellent II-3mm:

Recommended for turntables with thick felt mat or thin rubber mat about 1/8" thick. Most popular upgrade choice for Thorens, Orbit, VPI Scout 1.1, and VPI Traveler (for Scout 1.1 and Traveler II platter with raised center hub, choose 4.25" donut hole option from the Shopping Cart drop-down menu). Overall thickness: 3mm; weight: 70 grams (2.5 oz.).

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Way Excellent II-3.4mm:

Upgrade replacement for Oracle mats and for any turntable requiring a medium-thickness platter mat. Overall thickness: 3.35mm; weight: 82 grams (2.89 oz.).

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Way Excellent II-3.7mm:

For turntables with mat about 5/32" thick. Overall thickness: 3.7mm; weight: 99 grams (3.5 oz.).

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Way Excellent II-4mm:

For turntables with mat 4mm thick* and for VTA-adjustable turntables with semi-hollow cast platters prone to ringing. For belt-drive turntables, 4mm thickness provides sufficient isolation to effectively reduce or eliminate motor-induced 50Hz - 60Hz hum.

Popular choice for Empire, Technics, Garrard, Dual, Denon, Harman/Kardon, Kenwood, JVC, Lenco, Pioneer, and Well Tempered turntables. (For turntables without VTA/tonearm height adjustment, use whichever Way Excellent II is closest in thickness to your present mat.) Overall thickness: 4mm; weight: 108 grams (3.8 oz.)

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Way Excellent II-4.5mm:

With dual-layer foam base, for turntables with mat about 3/16" thick*
Overall thickness: 4.5mm; weight: 113 grams (4 oz.)

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Way Excellent II-5mm:

With dual-layer foam base, for turntables with mat 5mm thick*

Overall thickness: 5mm; weight: 120 grams (4.2 oz.)

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Way Excellent II-5.3mm:

With dual-layer foam base.

Overall thickness: 5.3mm; weight: 125 grams (4.4 oz.)

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Way Excellent II-5.56mm:

With dual-layer foam base, for turntables with mat 7/32" thick*

Overall thickness: 5.56mm; weight: 136 grams (4.8 oz.)

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Way Excellent II-6mm:

With extra thick dual-layer foam base, for turntables with mat just a little under 1/4" thick* Overall thickness: 6mm; weight: 153 grams (5.4 oz.).

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Way Excellent II-6.35mm:

With extra thick dual-layer foam base, for turntables with mat 1/4" thick*

Overall thickness: 6.35mm; weight: 160 grams (5.6 oz.).

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Way Excellent II-6.9mm:

With extra thick dual-layer foam base, for turntables with mat just over 1/4" thick* Overall thickness: 6.9mm; weight: 182 grams (6.4 oz.).

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Way Excellent II-7.2mm:

With extra thick dual-layer foam base, for turntables with mat about 9/32" thick* Overall thickness: 7.2mm; weight: 190 grams (6.7 oz.).

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*A note on thickness:

The open-cell silicone foam used with Way Excellent II Turntable Mats is very efficient and does not necessarily need to be as thick as stock rubber mats to effectively isolate a record from the platter and do a better job at it. Any thickness above 4mm simply adds thickness and height, with no real increase in isolation capacity. Usually, the only reason you would want a mat thicker than 4mm is if you cannot adjust VTA/tonearm height to accommodate. With platters not prone to ringing or excessive rumble, a thinner mat is usually sufficient. (scroll up to return)

Custom center hole:

All Way Excellent Turntable Mats are available with custom center hole for only $1.50 extra, any size up to two inches diameter, or 4.25" (108mm) "donut" hole. If you would like a custom center hole, simply order whichever Way Excellent Turntable Mat you want, and specify in the "comments" section of the order form the desired center hole diameter, in either inches or millimeters.

Standard Way Excellent II spindle hole is 7.25mm (.2854") and accomodates all standard LP spindles (which vary only slightly, from .278" to .285"). Standard singles "45 RPM" adapter requirement is 1-1/2".

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grungebuster Turntable Mat:

grungebuster Turntable Mat

For "matless" acrylic-platter turntables and Rega P9.

SuperSonic Record Stabilizer:

SuperSonic Record Stabilizer

A molded and hand-machined non-magnetic composite of fluorocarbons and metallic particles formulated for use with Herbie's turntable mats to enhance overall turntable performance. Stabilizer is not a clamp or conventional record weight it's designed to add a moderate amount of virtual mass to the record without clamping. 163.5 grams (5.8 oz.)

Recommended for all turntables using a Way Excellent II Turntable Mat, especially turntables with delicate suspension like Linn LP12. For turntables with adjustable suspension, adjust suspension to optimize performance with Stabilizer).

Titanium Record Stabilizer:

Titanium Record Stabilizer


Ultra precision-machined in the U.S.A. from solid, pure titanium, Herbie's Titanium Record Stabilizer is heavy enough to flatten mildly warped records and virtually eliminate all record surface vibration, yet light enough to be used with Way Excellent II and any other kind of turntable mat and suspended-platter turntables. Titanium provides superior dynamics and is more sonically neutral than brass, aluminum and stainless steel alloys, hardwoods including ebony and Mpingo, and any other record weight material that we know of. Titanium Record Stabilizer can help attain the ultimate achievement in vinyl playback. Ideal for all direct-drive and belt-drive turntables. Appropriate for Stereophile "Class A" audio systems.


  • Weight: 0.87 lb. (393 grams)
  • Maximum Diameter: 3.1" (78.74mm)
  • Maximum Height: 1.045" (26.543mm)
  • Maximum Spindle Height: 1" (25.4mm)

Titanium Record Stabilizer

Aluminum Record Stabilizer

Identical to Titanium Record Stabilizer above,

except precision machined from Type 6061 (T6)

aluminum. Weight: 240 grams


Tonearm dampers:


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Herbie's Donut:

Herbie's Donut Platter Mat

Firm elastomer "donut" is a great record/platter interface for Raven AC, Verdier Platine, and other turntables that typically do not use a platter mat. Standard .81mm-thick mat has sufficient body/weight that it stays in position on the platter and records lift right off. Herbie's Donut is also handy to use instead of awkward-to-use shims and to avoid adjusting VTA between records: just place on top of your present mat when you need a height boost for thin records, take it off for use with thick records.


  • Outside diameter: 280mm (11") Inside diameter 108mm (4.25")
  • Thickness: .81mm (.032") or optional .5mm
  • Optional spindle washer allows use of record clamp.

90-day no-risk trial. If not satisfied, simply return any Herbie's Audio Lab product within 90 days for a complete refund.

Lifetime warranty. If anything ever goes wrong, simply return any Herbie's Audio Lab turntable product and it will be repaired or replaced and returned to you at no cost.

International Shipments. Because turntable mats do not fit in a flat-rate envelope, the default shipping method on our shopping cart order form is not appropriate. For shipping option, choose either "USPS Med/Large Parcel," "Turntable Mat: Express Mail," or "Turntable Mat: Priority Mail Int'l."

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Name: Jim
Message: fast service, affordable upgrade that definitely made
an improvement to my Linn
thanks guys
Name: Wei
Message: What mat would you recommend for a VPI Classic 1 turntable? Do I need to adjust the arm with the mat on the platter?

Webmaster's reply: A full-size (295mm-diameter) Way Excellent II-2mm Turntable Mat is recommended for the VPI Classic. If VTA is already set for a 2mm mat, no adjustment would be necessary; otherwise you would want to adjust the VTA to accommodate the combined platter/mat thickness.
Name: Leo
Message: Hello there,

I ended up buying one of your mats years back and now that I'm getting a table that uses one again (Rega RP10) I came back to look around for a replacement for the felt one.

I saw that you sold a grungebuster that I believe is what you recommend for those Rega platters. What is wrong with the regular Herbies ones on the RP10 and what is the difference in sound between the two on a Rega? If they were closer in price it would be a no brainer for me but the $100 difference I was wondering if you could please elaborate.


Webmaster's reply: Way Excellent II and grungebuster mats both do very well with the RP10. However, customers who have auditioned both have expressed a preference for the grungebuster mat.
Name: Flying Ed
Message: Hey guys.
I have 2 Rega decks, RP8 [MONO] and RP10 [STEREO], both new models and
both being made of different materials Glass/Ceramic.
I would like to buy 2 mats BUT am in need of direction as to which models would be recommended.
Thanks in advance.
Flying Ed.

Webmaster's reply: A full-size Way Excellent II-2mm Turntable Mat with standard center hole is recommended for both.
Name: Flavio
Message: Hi Herbie,
I've got another question for ya, i'm having a hard time setting my tonearm height, i have a Tech SL 1210 M5g with a KAB Condorde Ortofon, i use the stock dj felt and the 1/8 stock rubber mat that came with it, tonearm height is set just bellow 0 and it still doesn't seem right, would you think it'd be a good idea if ordered a 5mm or even a 6mm herbie mat? thanks again.

Webmaster's reply: A 4mm mat is usually perfect for SL1210, though VTA usually comes close to bottoming out; a 5mm or 6mm mat would do just as well, sonically.
Name: Gerald
Message: I own a beautiful AR turntable circa 1983 with original felt mat. Looks like you recommend the Way Excellent II-2 mm x 295 mm diameter, correct?

Webmaster's reply: Correct.
Name: david
Message: hi
are your mats available in the uk?



Webmaster's reply: We send products to our customers in the UK all the time.
Name: John
Message: What mat should i use for a pioneer pl10? The cartridge is audio technica 440mla.

A full-size Way Excellent II-4mm Turntable Mat, or whichever Way Excellent II version is closest in diameter and thickness to your stock mat.
Name: Flavio
Message: What would you recommend for a Technics SL 1210 M5G?
Thank you.

Webmaster's reply: 285mm-diameter Way Excellent II-4mm Turntable Mat, standard center hole.
Name: Chris
Message: What mat would you recommend for a Yamaha YP-211?

Webmaster's reply: 285mm-diameter Way Excellent II-4.5mm Turntable Mat
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